The end of Vista?
The blows just keep on coming for Vista. It started with an extension of the life of XP and has continued with Microsoft’s recent announcement that Windows XP’s life will once again be extended, this time for two years and for ULC (ultra-low-cost) PCs, such as the Eee PC. As if that wasn’t enough, Bill Gates has also come out and said that the next version of Windows, Windows 7, is coming “sometime” next year. Considering that Vista hasn’t even been on the market for two years yet, the fact that XP is still so popular and Microsoft is already talking about the release of the next iteration of Windows does not bode well for Vista.
Vista has been plagued with problems and complaints, ranging from a lack of driver support to the controversial UAC or User Account Control. Could Microsoft be attempting to quitely abandon Vista? I hope not (I own Windows Vista Ultimate). As with any new operating system, there will always be a learning curve and those who are hesitant to adapt to the new software. For example, Windows XP had its fair share of complaints when it first came out too. Nevertheless, the criticisms directed at Vista seem to be much more relenting than those against XP when it was first released and the recent announcements by Microsoft serve only to strengthen those criticisms. Will Microsoft be able to save Vista and make consumers more interested in the problematic operating system? While only time will tell, the fate of Vista seems tenuous at best.
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I was given a free copy of Windows Vista by Dell when I bought my PC. It is sitting on my desk still. This was a year ago. Vista is a piece of s***!
I think I may install Vista on my shredder. It may work there. LOL!!!
I have used both Windows Vista Home Basic, and Ultimate. I must say, that after using XP at both Home and School, for about two years. I personally like XP better. I find it more reliable. Vista, I personally feel was rushed into development by Microsoft as a way to compete with Apple’s new release pf Mac OS X (Leopard).
I don’t get all of this. I use Vista and like it just fine. The look is better, it’s more intuitive. Dammit people, give it a chance!!!!
Or don’t. Who cares?
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Vista… hmm.. been using vista since it was on beta till now… had been uninstalling and reinstalling it several times but somehow.. XP is still better than Vista to me… Vista is just.. better interms of GUI.. (which exhausts your computer resources) LOL.. GO FOR XP!
Hmmm… what worries me is that it is very fashionable to bash Vista. It feels like any self proclaimed Tech expert thinks it is almost their perogative to write long anti-Vista articles based and citing other long anti-Vista articles - see a pattern emerging here?!
For the record I should say I am a Linux guy, I run more Linux boxes than Windows, but of those three windows boxes, 2 are XP and one is Vista. I am very happy with Vista as well as XP but it is about managing your excpectations. It is completely unrealistic to assume Vista will run on hardware that is a couple of years old (or budget.)
Surprise surprise, it wont - what does this tell us? Simply that Microsoft was not lying when it said Vista is a major update to the Windows platform. Historically all major updates have had driver and software compatibility issues (anyone remember XP 5/6 years ago?!?) Drivers are the responsibility of the manufacturer NOT Microsoft, for years prior to release Microsoft were talking to hardware companies, asking them to update their drivers but most ignored them. Why!?? Very simply because they will sell more hardware if people have to go out and buy Vista certified equipment. It is not in their interest to revist hardware they released 2 years ago - it does not make them any more money and the consumer be damned.
Saying that, there are a number of platforms / situations when Vista is clearly not suitable and for those I still run XP - it is more responsive and has the added bonus of comfort factor, but lets not forget, this is old technology that has not really been worked on since 2005 (sp2.) SP3 is nothing more than a security roll up with a few extra Vista features added.
The problem is, noone seems to have a long enough memory to remember the Windows 2000 / 98 saga, or the Windows XP / 2000 saga that followed that…
Nothing wrong with Vista, nothing wrong with XP, nothing wrong with Linux, nothing wrong with Mac - depends what hardware you have and what you want to do with it. Stop fishing for cheap traffic.
A year after Windows 2000 was released, MS was already working with developers on features for Windows XP. The same happened with Windows 95, 98, 98 SE and ME.
Its not the end of Vista, just the beginning of the new technologies (APIs and driver model) that have been introduced or more fully implemented in Vista.
Vista is good if you dont have to use it too much… I wouldn’t recommend using vista on a machine that didn’t already come preloaded.
End of Vista (Longhorn)? …im hungry
I wish people would stop knocking Microsoft or at least explain, in layman’s language, exactly what the majority of users need to do to come up against the supposed shortcomings of recent operating systems. I do pretty well everything except gaming on my 3-month olf Toshiba laptop with Vista Home Premium, and my 10-year old Tosh with XP is a lot slower but has yet to show me a software problem. I wouldn’t mind betting that the majority of computer users, who were presented with the technology with no prior training and very little after-sales help, are reasonably happy with their experience, just like me. So where’s the problem?
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I think the big issue is the fact that people can not get the most out of vista when you are using an outdated PC
chuck it all and buy a Mac! Life gets so much easer when your computer just works…
Matty
I got my pc right at the time that Vista was coming out. I am so glad that I got “stuck” with XP.
XP, is far better in my opinion, i have used Vista, and it was terrible. Ill stick with XP
AAAAAGH! I certainly hope not as well. I use Vista Ultimate, and I love it. It works quickly, efficiently, and it looks great! I use my computer a lot of the time during the day, and Vista doesn’t give me any problems at all.
I think they need to really work out some of the bugs, but hey, it comes in time, right?
[Remember the fiasco associated with Windows XP?]
Then again… I also have about 120 GB of free space specifically for Vista to mess around with…
I’m using Vista now having moved to it from Apple OSX when my second Apple died after less than two years. Vista is fine and I prefer it to OSX!
Vista simply does not give enough additional benefit for the additional resources and hassle. A number of non-Microsoft products are only now able to work with it. I paid extra to get a laptop with XP on it and won’t switch over until absolutely forced to.
I guess I’m one of the few who have no problems with Vista. I have Vista Home Premium on a laptop that I use for schoolwork and video editing, and it runs fine. Yes, it is annoying every time I have to confirm something, but on the whole, I don’t have any problems with it. Only a few games I’ve tried won’t work on it, and programs that I need, like Adobe Premiere CS3 and Final Draft, work perfectly.
Do I prefer XP? For gaming, sure. But for everything else, Vista seems fine for me.
It seems to me that a of the problem is the fault of the computer makers. You can still see low end computers with Vista and 1 mg ram. Joe average buys it then isn’t happy. Most medium priced boxes still only come with 2 mg although I’ve recently seen a few with 3 which is, as far I as I’ve read is really the minimum for good performance not the top end. I’m still using my P-4 Laptop with XP and a Meg. Yes I could use more power but I’ve been holding off until things settle down. To make matters worse I just read the Vista Service Pac 1 is only marginally faster. Oh well, maybe they shouldn’t worry so much about Google and concentrate on their core business.
Linux is looking mighty fine lately…
This is my opinion about vista…
well i do think the GUI is good..but just only the GUI..vista is wasting your resources only. Since vista needs quite high requirement. If you want GUI, why u dont use linux (ubuntu for example) and the you can edit the GUI as much as you want.
sorry for my bad english..
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I dunno what all the fuss is about, I bought a brand new Acer Aspire M3100 with Vista Home Premium & once I got used to it I loved it & it has been a dream to use. Never had a Vista based problem yet. UAC sometimes asks you for permission to do stuff, big deal you just click a button & get on with it.
I previously had a laptop with windows 98, that was sooooo slowwwwww, this one works so fast I love it.
I have also had XP for years on a work computer & I now prefer Vista, I reckon it’s just great. To all the Vista Hating XP Lovers…
Get over it….
It’s simple if you don’t like Vista don’t use it.
Why so much constant bitchin’ about it…
YEESH….
I can not believe that Dell would make computers that aren’t backward compatible. I bought a state of the art Dell XPSM1330, Windows Vista Business - Not even a single day has passed since that I haven’t faced a problem of some sort. And finally, after the hard disk of the system crashed on me, Dell replaced the hard disk and refuse to provide me any form of support for XP installation. I’m now using this computer with a screen res. dating back to early man days, thankfully the broadcom wireless worked!!
I agree with the “end of the vista” era comment, and can see it in the near horizon already. Although MS is known to release SP2 (they did this with Windows 98, they did this with Windows XP) after SP1, my guess is they should bundle both of them together to make the frustrated users happier in one go!!
well, everyone has his first time. my first time with Vista, though, is not as enjoyable as that with XP or that of BSD and Kubuntu. I love Kubuntu most, and later, the 7.10 version of Ubuntu.
i don’t believe that first impressions lasts but succeeding encounters with Vista just lead me dislike the OS further. it burdens my memory and is not compatible with older PCs i work with. not like Linux or BSD.
so given the choice, Vista or XP, i’ll still choose XP.
I bought a laptop with Vista a year ago. It is in a closet. I use a computer with XP that I found in a trash heap beside the road. It works better (maybe because it works). Toshiba does not provide drivers for XP for the laptop so it will always be an expensive paperweight. Vista cannot disappear soon enough to make me happy.
I use Vista at work and XP at home. The only thing Vista seems to have over XP is the sleek look. My biggest complaint with Vista is that it can’t seem to figure out how to close programs. It seems to get confused when I hit the red X, telling me that ***program has stopped working and will attempt to restart the program - duh I STOPPED THE PROGRAM. I’ll keep my XP for now, it uses up less RAM and works just as well (better sometimes)
I hate Vista and I’m not talking because it takes a learning curve. I do not like the arrangement of anything - I much prefer XP, but I’m computer literate enough to figure out how to navigate it.
I bought my new computer in November (didn’t want to because of everything I had heard about Vista but had no choice). Since November, I’ve had nothing but problems with Vista.
It is currently in the repair shop for the last three weeks and they still haven’t figured out what’s wrong with it and so now they want to take it back to factory reset. Of course, I can reload things… just have to waste my time doing it… oh and all those programs which only come with a couple of installs… say hello to having to buy new programs just because Vista is sh*t.
At the moment I’m typing on my laptop with my beloved XP… never knew I’d appreciate an operating system so much. But this laptop is old now for a computer and I shudder to think I might have to replace it.
For the first time EVER, I’m thinking of trashing my brand new computer and going MAC. I can use both, I’ve just always preferred PC and hence more familiar with it. But if anything is going to send me scurrying to MAC, it’s VISTA
Oh, yeah… one of my complaints is the same as Pamela’s. You can’t x out of the programs — it tells you the program has stopped working and restarts it so it takes you twice to shut it down. I didn’t have that problem if I closed it out through the drop down menu, but who uses that to close documents? After years of using windows, the brain automatically sends the hand and mouse to x out.
I bought a laptop with Vista business recently and it works perfectly fine, I like it. I think the problems lies with most of the users who tries to install Vista on PCs with specs that isn’t good enough for Vista. Eg: < 2gb ram.
Vista Ultimate 64-bit is a big pain in the you-know-what.
Incompatible with many pieces of hardware and software -
even when installed on a high end machine.
Long live Macs!
I ow three (3) copies of Vista Ultimate, one 64b and the other two 32b and I prefer it over XP. The biggest gripe I have is all the DRM crap. If MS removed it from the OS I think Vista would be the best OS version ever released by it. However in its current state I’m looking forward to the next version, the sooner the better and if it has as much or more DRM, I’ll switch to another platform.
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Personally, I think “whyamistilltyping” up there actually hit the nail on the head.
I’m a windows user through-and-through, and while I still rely on XP for many things, I find Vista to be a much more robust and reliable system. Don’t get me wrong, I love XP, but Vista is honestly just so much better. As per usual, the only complaint I have is the difference in system requirements, and that’s just my own damn fault for not upgrading my PC for the past few years.
Another thing to think about: Vista is much more widely used than Linux (based on web polling from w3schools), and a considerable portion of those Vista users love it and would refuse to switch away. That means it’s just as successful as Linux, if not more, and Linux certainly isn’t coming to any sort of demise. Why should it be any different for Vista?
My comp came with Vista. Oh, how I miss XP.
Can’t X out of the programs???
Another one I have never come across
Maybe I just have a really good computer that can handle Vista really well////
Beats me, I dunno??? I have never had any of the probs others complain about.
Now I will X out of Windows Internet Explorer
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I just had a conversation last night with a family member who purchased an HP laptop with Vista pre-installed. He’s disappointed because it’s such a dog. It boots up slowly, and programs take an inordinate amount of time to open. He’s looking into possibly installing XP on it, which for him, would be awesome on the newer hardware. He has no need for the GUI, he just wants a responsive machine.
if you are not happy with vista, your hardware sucks, or you have got too used to xp. end of story.
Joel: if your friend doesnt need a GUI, tell him to use any linux distro with bash shell
Vista didn’t even have the beginning…
i do believe that yeah.. Vista is cool trying to compete with imac on the visual side but it is so annoying and there are many thing that restrict you from having a good OS
Like my housemate External harddisk can be plugged onto vista because it is not recognized.. wtf!
It’s possible Vista will bite the dust. There have been so many complaints over the OS that Microsoft has probably had enough. Not that Bill Gates needs any more money, but still. Maybe Windows 7 will be a better combination of Vista and XP, or something completely different.
I’ve gotten used to Vista, so whatever happens happens. Not too worried about it.
I just purchased a laptop through Dell. From what I am reading here, I am glad I got a 320GB hard drive and 4GB of memory. I am hoping if hardware is the primary issue that I should be just fine with Vista.
@ Joel: first off, it’s an HP, so it’s loaded with a ton of startup crap that is bogging down the system. Run msconfig and turn everything off.
More often than not, that will do it. Also check to make sure there’s enough ram in the machine. Never hurts to look.
Vista definitely has quite a lot of annoying issues. But still, it somehow seems to work out for me. I don’t regret the upgrade from XP to Vista and thankfully, the hardware on my laptop is capable enough to run vista satisfactorily. I wish they had included Full Aero with Flip 3D in the Home Basic version too.
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havent had any problems with it for the year that I had it.
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I guess I’m not the first one to say “get a mac”, but I tried Vista on my mom’s iMac, and it runs pretty well. Don’t know what all the fuss is about, unless you have a PC.
Vista came preloaded on my notebook and there is no way of getting rid of it - we have tried everything to get rid of it so we can revert to XP
Vista is very taxing on the hardrive and memory of the notebook - its start up and wind down times are so sluggish
Agreed that even on faster hardware, Vista runs slower. Also, it isn’t compatible with many softwares out there, be it games or serious stuff. That’s why I was so hesitant to get Vista, but since it comes pre-loaded on almost every notebook, there’s not much of a choice. Hopefully if Microsoft really plans to ditch Vista, they’ll devise a way to let Vista users revert to XP.
Vista is a piece of s*** as far as handling it, and learning how to use it, and whatnot but I can say this about Vista; it sure looks purdy
hi, i have been using vista home premium for about 6 months now, and despite the fact it’s more secure, and up to date, it is verrryyy verrry slow. it’s not quick when i need it to be, takes forever to shut down, and wants to confirm everything that i do. but it is fine for me, other than that, no probs with vista.
I still don’t understand why my sound drivers are deliberately crippled in Vista, making home recording impossible, when it was a breeze in XP. Oh wait, I do understand: it’s because I’m not to be trusted! Thanks, operating system!
I like Vista, it came with the laptop that I bought. I like that when I install a new application the start menu is already sorted.
But otherwise, Microsoft tried too hard to compete with Apple. I can’t stand the [Windows]+[tab] key combination, it’s useless. The Aero interface is a waste of horsepower, I can’t believe they forced graphics card makers to support it.
Good. I hope they learned there lessons and the next Windows will not have the problems Vista has.
so i would have to spend another $200 to get XP and I can’t afford that so I’m stuck with my old computer.
My computer is old and I need a new one but I can’t afford a $2000 or more computer, I can’t affair a powerful processor, powerful graphics card, huge hard drive and so on that vista would need, at the most I could afford a $500 computer but such computers would be slow with Vista and they don’t offer XP computers cause Microsoft is pushing Vista like its crack (what ever happened to “the customer is always right”
And the worse part is most of the features you get on Vista you can get off the internet (many for free) for XP with out using as much system resources as vista would.
Now I don’t expect a computer I can afford to be able to run the latest Windows as good as the previous Windows but Vista just uses far to much system resources. Most people are not going to buy a computer good enough to run it decently and I can’t afford to.
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Hey hey hey!
I payed extra for a computer with Windows vista to keep up with software compatibility, last year. I was not aware how much compatibly i would LOSE with vista.
my advise to anyone buying a new home computer, don’t pay extra for vista. put your money else where in like more RAM or memory.
Vista is expensive garbage.
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Since I use Windows just for gaming, I’m still using XP. For me Vistas improvements are not hat important, I don’t need a better GUI, nicer design, or less privileges for the price of substantially more resource cost.
For everything apart from gaming I use Ubuntu, where I have everything Vista has, and more, for less resource cost.
i like vista though. =\ well whatever the new one is i probably will get it….although, i might be switching to a mac…humm…
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I have to say I agree with whyamistilltyping’s comment - I actually had more problems with XP than Vista. No driver problems so far, no compatibility problems so far and only two BSODs in the past year. That beat’s my track record with XP, which BSODded every time I played a WMA or WMV in WMP!
Mind you, almost as soon as I got my laptop (pre-loaded Vista), I stripped it and re-installed Vista from scratch so it wouldn’t have crapware on it.
I have longer battery life in Vista than XP and, even on specs at which everyone else says everything (including Aero) should be crawling, it’s remarkably responsive.
I only have two complaints with Vista: UAC in place for trivial things (font installation, shortcut changing and time syncing) and the fact that system files are so much more difficult to patch when one wants to install custom styles.
Oh, yes, and the fact that it was years overdue and lacking in terms of real killer features.
But, despite the fact that I’m quite fond of Vista after a year of using it, I’d happily trade for Ubuntu (or any Linux distro) if bloody Broadcom’s wireless drivers are freed and work out-of-the-box. Grrr…
The funny thing is that I have friends with newer and far fancier (and more expensive) notebooks and specs sometimes double my own, and their computers just about die with Vista. Then you also have Microsoft execs having troubles with Vista.
I believe that it’s possible that Vista only works for a small, absolutely 1337-x0r sub-section of the computing community that secretly pwn like no others. And I’m one of those people.
Or people having troubles with Vista just have hardware that’s not properly supported. If this is the case, I think you’d be better off directing your anger at hardware manufacturers and OEMs.
But if you have super awesome and compatible hardware and it still sucks, throw your anger upon Microsoft, comrades!
i believe it ll be havoc for microosft to abandon vista. The cost of vista was around 10 Billiion USD. It will be very difficult for microsoft absorb that blow.
by abandoning vista they ll not only loose the money but also the reputation. The people who has pruchased vista like u ll think before they ll purchase any next MS OS. Thus it is about the +ve feedback cycle that bill gates has been talking about. He ll loose that +ve thing from its microsoft brand.
I have seen Vista bin pain in Neck for many business users their custom made application were unable to run on Vista plus Vista’s system requirement which forced a major upgrade in hardware were not found very popular for many medium businesses.
Although look and feel of Vista has been excllent .
Problem with Vista is that it’s resource hungry. I have no problems with my XP (which I hardly use) because Ubuntu works just fine for me.
Most people who have a problem with vista have never used it, the just heard “rumors” about it. I have used it and seen it used ever since it came out. It is the most stable program windows ahs ever came out with. And as the hacker challenge just proved, the hacked the mac, but couldnt hack vista or linux. Nuff said
It’s amusing to see all the people defending vista. Hired by Microsoft? Vista’s performance is awful on anything but the most expensive laptop’s today compared to windows XP. And the GUI while it looks fancy and nice it horribly designed. Microsoft says that it attempted to upgrade windows XP’s user interface to be more user-friendly, but they just made it worse lol. And unlike the a previous comment suggested, most people who have a problem with vista have used it. When I first got vista the I had to re-install my operating system 5 or 6 times because windows became corrupted.
Microsoft exec #1: I’m bored exec #2, what should we do?
Microsoft exec #2: Well we could always create something that has not compatibility with anything on the market right now.
Microsoft exec #1: How about an operating system?
Microsoft exec #2: Great idea! That will create so many problems for everyone. And then Microsoft fan boi’s can defend us by telling people to blame manufacturers
Microsoft exec #1: mwahahahaha
vista is BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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we all know microsoft is the old-school slow and bulky programming that IBM turned into when MS was first popular. Is this some kind of surprise? MS hasn’t been innovative for about a decade now. Now MS is the big slow giant, Leopard is so much better than vista it’s not even funny, the main thing the pc has going for it is the flexibility and hands-on aspect of it.
Gates said it COULD be comming out next year, not that it will be. Please get that right.
I have no problem with Vista, it’s much better than XP. But it is not a huge upgrade from XP, like XP was from Windows ME.
I have run almost all versions of Vista from the betas , pre release , RCs etc and also the home , business and ultimate versions .. . The final release verions have worked just fine for me and I have had lesser issues with it than on XP . I dont know why all the bashing.
Reply to: “chris who hates his vista”: Vista is expensive garbage!
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the biggest problem with vista is its hefty price. Is worth the hundreds of dollars for Defender? for the easy sinci-ng? there are better security systems (for free if your patient and savvy ) than defender and if your not using IE why bother with it.
Also, Gates spent ALOT of $ on Vista.. instead of how good it works. That’s why I bought a my New dell with XP Media Center 2005. Just go to dell.ca or dell.com and find: Buy a PC with XP. Easy! That’s what did to protect me from buying vista ultimate.. ( which is okay, not too good but okay.. I have it on my HP. )
I abandoned Vista (despite being an early adopter) when I encountered re-installation problems. It kept telling me my copy was registered to another person. “Yes it’s registered to me”, I found myself screaming over and over at the computer. And so I moved over to Linux. My computer loves me for it.
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You can still get XP PC’s at Dell? I did not know that. Yay!
I have to use windows for work still, because of the outlook mail and appointment integration lock-in. I do use XP there, but for anything else I use Ubuntu Linux, both at work and at home.
That being said, XP was just as hated and unstable when it was first introduced, and it matured, and the hardware caught up with it. So I would assume that Vista just is still at the beginning of that lifecycle.
However the main unique issue I have with Vista over XP is the attempt to force a trusted computing model on the user, similar to what Apple does on their iPhone infrastructure. Supposedly there are like 7 programs that attempt to control what you are doing with your data on your computer, which is just the wrong approach.
I will only buy and use hardware and software that enhances my abilities, and not any that are designed to restrict my abilities. Policing should be left to the police, and not to a corporation.
That is something I strongly object to, and is also the reason why I have returned my iPhone.
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I hate Vista with a fiery passion. It seems like there was way too much time making it “look better” (not my opinion, I find it irritating and useless) and not nearly enough making it WORK. Sorry if I prefer function to form, or that I think it’s common sense to make your next version of an OS compatible with the previous versions/software available.
For more ranting, I posted about it here: http://mickeypvx.wordpress.com/2008/02/23/windows-vista-pile-of-crap/
Good question. I have Vista basic and don’t mind it. Granted it has it’s problems, but that’s to be expected. I’m surprised to hear of Windows 7 so soon… why not improve on Vista? I’ll keep an eye on your blog to see your future thoughts about all this… I’m concerned as well.
I, personally, see Vista as a “transition OS”. It’s nothing more than an excuse to draw a little amount of income in between operating system releases. I’ve used it before, and didn’t like it at all.
I just really hope they’ve been spending these past years trying to perfect Win7.
What’s wrong with Vista? I’ve been using it for nearly a year and haven’t experienced a single issue. Is Vista bashing just the cool thing to do?
I won’t bother bashing on Vista, or XP instead I’ll take my shots on Microsoft itself. As several have said, don’t try using the software (OS) on machines that are several years old, it more then likely wont be a pleasant experience. Microsoft has continuously made their software bigger and with more bloat then a dead cow on a hot summers day. Their are other operating system out there that instead of striving to out date your computer within months, work to streamline their programing code so that your computer can hum along for many more years to come. If you don’t understand when was the last time you saw any Microsoft product advertised to run on a x86 machine? That typically means older ones with a slower cpu speed. (Under 1 GH). While i686 is what the newer pentium speeds are geared for. I guarantee you that vista is in the i686 class, despite what their web page says. I’ve seen it run on 1 gig of memory and even then it was slow. Like I said their are alternatives, and those that are willing to suffer will continue to be slaves to the constant barrage of Microsoft’s assault on your wallet. Did I mention that the other system are completely free?
Why does it seem to be the latest fad to bash vista. I have Vista Home Premium preinstalled on my laptop. It’s fast. It’s responsive. I haven’t had any software or hardware issues. Aero is extremely pretty and I have no complaints. If you’re complaining that vista won’t run on that 10 year old machine, buy yourself a new computer!
Macs suck
I have had XP for 4 years and Vista for about 4-5 months. I would say XP is better. They have gone overboard with Vista, to be honest, and it’s kinda rushed. Some of it’s great, don’t get me wrong, but it’s so frustrating at times. There’s still alot of bugs, if you ask me.
Microsoft just repeating the scene where they did to Windows Me
Here is a great poster for Vista
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I’ve been using Vista Ultimate since RC2 (beta), and have honestly loved it. It’s much more intuitive, and I can find stuff on my computer MUCH quicker. The organizational functions are great. And if I had kids, I would be LOVING the built-in parental controls.
The UAC (User Account Control) has saved my ass a few times. On the other hand, the only time I got a virus was when a house guest was using the PC and just went clicking through the Ok’s on the UAC warnings, because he wasn’t familiar with Vista. And it crashed my system in a really bad way. That was my dad, and he got an earful about reading warnings and not just clicking “Ok” to anything and everything!
Now, the people that I have run into that are anti-Vista are in two categories:
- System Admins that have had legitimate problems and don’t want to take the time to “fix what isn’t broken” with XP (I can understand that)
- People that have heard from others that they shouldn’t like Vista and so they bash it.
Yes, drivers were a big problem at launch, but that was not MS’s fault as the third party manufacturers need to make drivers available, nor is it an indication of how well or poorly Vista runs.
If I get a flat tire on my brand-new car, would I complain to Honda, or GoodYear?
Give Vista a chance, and if you honestly still don’t like it, then I’m with you to go back to XP or wait for the next system.
Best,
Jason
I have a problem with this article.
To start, who ever wrote that is not well versed in MS’s timeline of OS releases. Windows 7 will be released on track as with all other OSs. The only divergence of this schedule is Vista and only because they dropped Longhorn. So basically an OS was skipped versus Vista being late.
So that leaves us to ponder what else this guy isn’t well versed with in regards to Vista as a whole. He tries to spoon feed us the idea that the release of Windows 7 among other things doesn’t “bode well” for Vista? That’s ridiculous. He says this but he doesn’t base it on anything real. Windows 7 isn’t being released any sooner then any other OS (again, with the exception of Vista). So that leaves me to wonder how old this guy is in order to evaluate his level of knowledge in such things since he only seems to have knowledge of XP and Vista in his memory bank to pull from to develop such bogus “bottoms lines”.
For those that are wondering, we get a new desktop every 2-3 years:
wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_systems_timeline
Its interesting to see so many negative opinions for Vista, Even I had told a lot of guys not to use vista….
Till my shiny new laptop came with vista.
Sure Vista has its own quirks, a few of my apps “Stopped Responding” and at times I had system that just wont respond. But I still have very fond memories of XP showing me BSODs, and I still remember the time when my desktop vendor suggested me “against” XP coz it needs “lots of ram” and is “slower”.
The point is, tomorrow when Windows 7 is finally lauched, ppl are going to say how XP and Vista is so much better than 7.
From what I have observed, Vista doesnt work well with anything older than Intel “Core” series and RAM <1GB (1GB is just about it, but with 2GB things can become a lot more comfortable).
Sluggishness ? Well, Vista prefetch can do wonders, FireFox and GIMP fires up fast, Very fast.
And thanks to I/O prioratization, Neither windows Indexing nor BitDefender hurts my normal work on my laptop.
All in all, vista for end user is more evolutionary. and I found there is a lot going on under the skin to keep things running real smooth. Personally I will recommend Vista to anyone purchasing a new comp.
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